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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby DillyGill » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:45 am

So from a laymans point of view I would like to look at that article

'Dinosaurs' iron-rich blood, combined with a good environment for fossilization, may explain the amazing existence of soft tissue from the Cretaceous (a period that lasted from about 65.5 million to 145.5 million years ago) and even earlier. The specimens Schweitzer works with, including skin, show evidence of excellent preservation. The bones of these various specimens are articulated, not scattered, suggesting they were buried quickly. They're also buried in sandstone, which is porous and may wick away bacteria and reactive enzymes that would otherwise degrade the bone.'

So this is the explanation of offer for us poor lay folk, iron and the environment may explain everything. And you wander why the lay people are skeptical when you dismiss them, if that is the best explanation on offer for us.

Also of note is the porous sandstone which may prevent the build up of bacteria but would also allow water to 'wick away' and degrade the soft tissue. In this article it mentions two samples, one being bathed in blood and the other in water, which do you think would be a more accurate representation of the circumstance of the burial?
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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby tjguy » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:32 am

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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby Thorton » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:22 pm

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Re: Soft Tissue

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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby DillyGill » Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:45 am

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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby Thorton » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:06 am

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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby DillyGill » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:06 am

But all of that is meaningless, it is a lot of wishful thinking, although I am sure they agonized over each aspect of it.

If that dinosaur is only about a million years old what does that do to your picture?

If you like it or not the most accurate method of dating is the soft tissue. The rest of your methods are just hand waving compared to that.
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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby stcordova » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:10 pm

DillyGill,


Mark Armitage carried out very similar, if not better investigations than Mary Schwitzer and even used far more powerful microscopes (electron microscopes) to examine the soft tissue. He got the photos published in a scientific journal and was quickly fired afterward. He made no mention of young earth or creation in the publication. However he believes in a young earth. The co-author, Kevin Anderson, is a professor at another university, and thankfully kept his job, however the lead researcher Mark Armitage was fired.

I met Mark Armitage and Kevin Anderson at this past August at ICC 2013 (International Conference of Creationism).

These are the photos that got him fired:

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Here is my initial account of the matter:



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Re: Soft Tissue

Postby Thorton » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:59 pm

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