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Creation Evolution University • View topic - When and when not to debate trolls
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When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:30 am
by stcordova
Debating trolls is generally a waste of time unless one wishes to practice ones debate skills. Sometimes engaging a troll will sharpen ones ability to fight through garbage and get a point across.

There comes a point when it is useless. In this forum, when that point is reached, one simply starts a thread and excludes trolls. Notice this discussion was free of spam:



In the meantime I'm probing if Thronton and others are just bluffing about Uranium being the primary cause of C14 in carboniferous coal. I actually want to see how strong a hand the Darwinists have on this one. You can see his performance so far. :-)




I need to know I'm making a good argument since I will pass the challenge to students to see if they can find an answer to the question of how much concentration of Uranium is needed in a coal sample to give it an age of 40,000 years. Baumgardner said it had to be 99%! At which point you have a Uranium sample not a coal sample.

Thronton is playing his only hand, that is to bluff and bloviate, he's doing nothing in terms of providing meaningful data. That is a good sign. In the mean time, the other thread is troll-free, and once I collect enough non responses from Thornton, I will then let the record show, there were no credible peer reviewed articles found by Thornton that gave the answer to the requisite Uranium concentration.

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:25 pm
by Tragic Mishap
I debate trolls because I think it's fun. Plus you can never be sure when they are trolls or for real, so why not give them the benefit of the doubt? I've been known to troll myself sometimes, and it really is jusr for fun. Most of the time if you can move the discussion to a certain point it will start to get real. Takes some patience and some trolling skills of your own though.

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:06 pm
by JoeCoder

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:18 pm
by Robert Byers
What in hell is a troll?? I never seeked out a answer but am constantly accusof it myself.
I am totally in ernest and on the make. I seek to conquer and persuade by words.
Yet on many evolutionist things I'm called a troll seemly in sincerity.
Accusation of trollism should not be made for people who fight this way or that.
Frustration should not lead to accusations about someone being a fraud in intents to discuss origin issues.
Its stupid. If trolls really are frauds about sincerity of conviction or debating then it would be obvious. People who persist in origin stuff are sincere.
Anyways I see everyone accuses of trollsism for people that are just clumbsy in making a case. Or sloppy about details.
Evolutionary biology is not science and troll classification is not being very sciency either.

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:47 pm
by stcordova
JoeCoder,

Nice to see you! We started working through the Uranium concentration from first principles in earnest here:


Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:39 am
by Alan Fox
Sal,

You should invite Larry Morgan to expand on his theme of free speech. Or does Larry qualify as a troll? Perhaps you should attempt a clear definition of trolls and trolling. Maybe a genuine example to demonstrate the difference between a troll and someone expressing an inconvenient point of view.

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:03 pm
by stcordova
Dr. Moran is a professor and textbook author on chemistry and biochemistry. This forum is ideal for him to criticize the ideas offered such as homochirality of amino acids and OOL experiments. The invitation is publicly extended to him and any scientist willing to offer scientific expertise in their fields is welcome.

Re: When and when not to debate trolls

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:20 am
by Barb
Robert Byers: A troll is someone who posts deliberately inflammatory comments, hoping for an argument instead of a true exchange of ideas or civil debate.